Thinking Fool

I'm w/ you 100%. But, then again, I was a waitress way back when. I've found that anyone who's ever waited tables tips well. Go figure.

You and I agree on appropriate tipping philosophy.

1) Thank you Fool, great example of why women should never make money decisions.

2) I tip too much because I am scared that I will play into the Jew stereotype if I only leave 15%.

3) If the service is bad, you dont tip 10%, you take a 5 dollar bill into the bathroom with you, rub it along the ground at the foot of the crapper, you know where the uncoordinated miss with their urine, be careful, leave at least enough of the bill clean so that you can carry it without having pee hands. Then you leave that as the tip, preferrable directly into the waiter's hand or mouth. Dont be bashful, announce that you want to pee on him.

This is nonsense. There is no reason why anybody should pay extra money for a bad dining experience. I fully believe in tipping well when the waiter or waitress has done a good job. However, the notion that I should give even 10 percent of the cost of my meal to a person who has a bad attitude or can’t focus on what he or she is doing is preposterous. And if those people need tips for a living, maybe they will try a little harder next time.

N.B.: When leaving a 0 percent tip, which I have had occasion to do a few times in my life, remember to put a 0 in the tip line and transfer the subtotal down. Otherwise, the server may think you simply forgot to include a tip.

Me,

I have no problems with leaving a zero tip if the service is really REALLY REALLY horrendous. I'm more concerned about people who think a great tip tops out at 15%. Crappy waiters need not be rewarded. Wonderful ones, on the other hand, should.

Fool

Pretty--That comment re: women and money decisions is completely asinine, as in made by an ass.

haha i thought pretty's comment was funny, even though i disagree with it.

anyhoo, TF, i agree with you, for the most part: i'd say an average, you've-neither-amazed-me-nor-pissed-me-off tip should be 15%. good service - 20%. great service - hey, blow as much of your dough as you think is proper. but crappy service? well, i wouldn't leave nothing (sorry, Me). i'd say a few bucks are sufficient (i.e. 8-10%).

or, if you're really concerned about bad service, go to a nice restaurant - one that hires experienced waitstaff (the odds are slim that you'll get truly dismal service).

LM--yeah, it's pretty funny when people seemingly imply, even if sarcastically, that women are are dumb as rocks and should thus be deprived of the ability to control that which makes the world go 'round. Funny, funny stuff.

haha well i'm still laughing, so yeah, it is funny. oh, i'm a woman, too. lighten up!

also, i thought love made the world go 'round, not money?

"LM--yeah, it's pretty funny when people seemingly imply, even if sarcastically, that women are are dumb as rocks and should thus be deprived of the ability to control that which makes the world go 'round. Funny, funny stuff."

Wow, someone must be having their period.

Not for nothing LM, but my guess is that you're one of those women who likes to be one of the "cool girls" who tries to be one of guys, and thus stands by laughing pathetically as her guy friends bash women in her presence. I've known many women like you--especially in law school.

You'll find it's not so funny as you actually enter the legal field and are faced with sh*t like that on a daily basis as you try to do your job. Not funny at all. In fact, it's quite frustrating. But, you'll find out for yourself. Talk to me in a few years...

And, I've got a great sense of humor--when things are actually funny. Menstruation's got nothing to do with one's sense of humor. In fact, it's got little to do with anything, other than whether one had an egg fertilized in a given month.

(Sorry thinking fool, for dragging my sh*t to your blog. I enjoy your posts and comments on my blog. I just can't and/or won't let stuff like that go without a comment. Annoying, I know.)

well this has been a wonderful character assessment about me, on your part, moi. unfortunately, your judgment is woefully inaccurate. of course, i can't expect much more, as we have not had the good fortune to get to know one another. granted, this is not the proper place for me to defend my character against your acerbic accusations. suffice it to say, then, that i do not stand idly by, lips sealed, while friends (or strangers) say something that i find offensive. i did not find pretty's comment to be offensive. you did. i did not take issue with it. you did. i'm sorry that you didsagreed with my reaction, but your manner of attacking it certainly hasn't convinced me that i should respond any differently. i'd be happy to carry on this discussion via email. feel free to write: thelawmonkey@gmail.com

I come for the humor, I stay for the bare-knuckle catfights.

Oh, and one more thing...

Growing up as a fat, Jewish kid who liked to play Dungeons and Dragons in a rural protestant high school, I can pretty much guarantee that I got more sh*t said and done to me in a week than you will in your entire life. Did I spend my time whining about how "unfunny" it was? No, I gave as good as I got. By the end of high school career no one insulted me, for fear that my verbal and psychological counterattack would leave them curled in a fetal position while whimpering softly to themselves in a bathroom stall.

This is not a professional setting, this is a message board, if you want play in our reindeer games start giving as good as your getting because angry tirades about how we should not be insulting the fairer gender aren't going to go very far here. This is not a safe place, you are not a beautiful and special snowflake.

So, if you are going to comment on every offensive comment that is going to pop up on this blog, I suggest you quit your job now, as that is a herculean task that will take you many lifetimes to complete.

Since you so cleverly "profiled" LM let me do a little profile on you... I bet you are an attractive white, blonde girl who grew up in a middle to upper class household who never was hungry a day in her life (barring bulmia or other eating disorder). She never experienced REAL discrimination (the kind that would result in her not being hired) because by the time she got to the workplace most, but not all of that sh*t was wiped out. And yet considering that she is richer and better off than 99% of the planet is still so miserable that she takes an off-hand internet comment and blows it way out of proportion, despite her self-proclaimed "great sense of humor."

Am I right?

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Oops. Sorry. Clearly, I cut and pasted the wrong thing (it was an error message that Ikept receiving when I tried to post this comment). Here's the comment:

Over-ed--not so right, my fellow member of the tribe (as my dad calls us). I'm a short, size 8 brunette Jewish chick from the Northeast. As for my looks, I like to think I'm attractive, but only to those who go for the "exotic" look. I have a very Eurasian look about me. Nothing blond about me.

And, LM, I'm sure you're quite nice. And, I guess we're alike. I don't stand idly by when I her something offensive either. We just disagree as to what's offensive. To each her own.

And, btw, LM, I was de-clawed quite some time ago. But, here's some popcorn. Mud wrestling's scheduled for 6. Would you like a beer with that?

*sigh* The last comment is directed to over-ed.

Moi out.

So, what your saying is that I basically got everything right, except for the hair color?

No, that's not what I'm saying. I have experienced my fair share of anti-semitism (for example, I was the only Jew at the firm I used to work at and heard a number of Jewish jokes from partners until they eventually figured out I was "one of them" and thus told the jokes when I wasn't around) and adversity.

My childhood was hunky dorey, at least financially, since my mom married my doctor dad when I was 7. Prior to that, she was a single mom, who'd divorced my "real" dad, a heroine addict 'Nam vet who'd been my primary caregiver up until the divorce when I was 3. I haven't seen him since I was 6. So, from my little kid perspective, I lost my dad at age 3. Not so easy for a little kid to get over. My early years were very unhappy and I feel their effects to this day.

Oh, and my husband was diagnosed with cancer 3 weeks before our wedding. I consider that adversity. Do you?

Oh, and no eating disorders, ever.

So, armchair psychologist, any other questions?

Well, allow me to step out of the "who's had a more miserable life" pissing contest by keeping my personal horrors private. (My outlet is usually hurling a half-empty whiskey bottle at a Rabbi during Yom Kippur services).

But it sucks having someone judge you by a single statement on the interweb, doesn't it?

Over-ed--my personal horrors are still pretty private, IMO, given that my moniker is "Moi";) And, you accused me of a happy-go-lucky life- I just countered with my reality. And, finally, you've already hinted at your own horrors in a small protestant majority town...

And, I don't believe that I judged anyone. I disagreed with statements made by others. And engaged in a bit of name calling. But rendered a judgment? Moi? I think not!

My, my! Didn't you all have a grand time today. :-)
~TF

hehehe

TF, could you please pass the popcorn? :P