Thinking Fool

As a Jew I don't see what the big deal is. If I had a dollar for every friend that has gotten drunk and called me a "fucking jew" I would have enough money to buy a Paris Hilton finger-bang.

Of course, most of the time they weren't drunk, they were just angry that I used my "connections" to destroy their credit rating after they refused to repay the dollar I loaned them at 25.25% interest.

On another note, what the fuck is with Mel Gibson's "Sadaam Hussein" beard? It makes him look like a complete lunatic. Er... More of a complete lunatic.

This is Jason C... I decided to change my screenname and remove my e-mail, lest in 20 years when I run for office I will be forced to explain my comments to idiots who don't understand sarcasm.

I imagine the press conference where I will have to explain that I was kidding when I said that I wanted to "finger-bang Paris Hilton." I will be forced to read off a long prepared apology to Paris, which, much like Mel Gibson's will be totally disingenuous.

"I bet the country embraces my comments just like they embraced David Duke. I mean he is an honest Nazi guy, right?"

Very funny and probably kinda true.

Yeah, I'm kind of baffled by the whole thing too. I mean, obviously it's not ok to make anti-Semitic statements. But setting that aside, if this were a "first time offense" would people really be quite as upset? Or are people just taking his drunken ramblings to a new extreme, as "revenge" for The Passion? To be clear - I think his original statements were obviously offensive, and in no way appropriate, and I don't mean to justify them in any way what-so-ever. But people hardly get so upset every time a celebrity says something stupid... so what explains the reaction this time?

Oh, and the beard - I'm not okay with that either.

I think the beard, more than the comments is really what does it for me. It just makes him look like he just crawled out of a Spider-hole. It gives him that "Welcome to crazy, I just got back" look that is all the rage among militant fanatics and anti-semites everywhere.

This is Classic Fool. Great stuff. And I'm delighted that Mel has managed to draw more attention to what a complete ass he is. Hooray for wacky religious beliefs!

I know that people don't get upset whenever celebrities say something stupid, but I do think they get upset whenever they say something really racist.

i am just sad this means i cant enjoy braveheart anymore.

You actually enjoyed BRAVEHEART to begin with?

Ok, let's say they do get upset whenever someone makes a racist comment. Does that usually translate into blacklisting the person entirely? Does that usually translate into saying there is no way the person can ever make up for the comment and shouldn't work again? I mean, yeah, it was wrong, period. Gibson should never have said what he did, drunk or not. More importantly, he should never have thought what he said. We all know that. But my question is, what's the appropriate reaction? I guess it just seems to me like people are blowing this whole thing out of proportion.

In a totally different vein, I wonder if there is any interconnectedness between the specific comments Gibson made (i.e. the war bit) and the whole situation in Lebanon. If not for that, would he have made a different racist comment?

ok, obviously philosofer is a catholic.

What is the appropriate action for a priest who fondles? let's not blow it out of proportion, put him in another parrish, what are the odds it happens again.

some large religious group helps the nazis? cmon, it was the in thing to do.

Blame the Jews for everything? what's wrong with that, it is their fault. I blame Shamah.

I really hope Gibson is Catholic so this makes more sense. If not it just makes me look spiteful.

To answer the final questino of Philo, NO, GIBSON IS AN ANTI-SEMITE. He hates Jews, he blames Jews for the things that go wrong in the world and thinks they control the money supply and Hollywood. Even when the Jews were not attacking terrorists in a small bordering country they were still blamed for the ills of whatever the bothersome crap was for that time period. Jews made me make Payback. Jews shot Lincoln. Jews ate Lindbergh's baby. Jews made the Schnaps that got me drunk.

For one, I wish the Jewish conspiracy was real. The Elders of Zion are the only ones who could get me a job.

Well we did kill Lincoln. He was on the verge of discovering our spacecrafts.

Learn to read man. I didn't ask if it was the Lebanon thing that led to his comments - I asked if it led to the SPECIFIC comments. "If not for that, would he have made a different racist comment?" - I completely acknowledge the root of his comment - his racism. I'm just wondering if he would have said something different (but still racist) if the timing had been otherwise.

Secondly, what the heck does my religion have to do with anything? I think entirely blacklisting someone, and completely refusing to ever work with them again, is a little over-stepping when it comes to the appropriate reaction. Yes, Gibson obviously has some serious issues, and those need to be addressed. But not working with him won't make him tolerant - if anything it'll have the opposite effect. Your whole analogy to the priests was absurd. And I'm assuming you're smart enough to figure out the differences, but maybe I shouldn't give you that much credit.

Anyways, the ultimate point here is that Gibson said some awful things. Even worse - he apparently said those awful things because there's a deep-seated bigotry inside him. That needs to be dealt with. Trying to take away the man's livelihood isn't going to deal with the problem. I'm not saying people shouldn't be mad at Gibson - they should. I'm not saying people should condone Gibson - they shouldn't. I'm just saying they should try to help him correct the problem, instead of exacerbating the situation.

It's nice to sit back and just watch you people go at it (especially since I had a less than fun week). Of course, it'd be a lot nicer if "you people" were some Victoria's Secret supermodels and "at it" referred to something else, but this will do for now. Cheers!

YOU CAN TAKE MEL'S LIFE...BUT YOU CAN NEVER TAKE AWAY HIS FREEDOM TO SAY STUPID SHIT.

If Mel really wants to work out his problems with the Jewish people I too volunteer to be one of the people that will rid him of the disease that is anti-semitism. We can talk torah and midrash and other jewey shit. But my only condition is that we do it over a bottle of scotch.

Oh, I would feel really bad making fun of him for being an alcoholic...if he didn't have a deep irrational disdain for my people that he is only trying to publicly distance himself from because it might prevent his great grandkids neighbors from being trust fund babies. oh and this is me weeping if the multimillionaire mel gibson loses a job or two over his statements.

On a more serious note, people jumping on Mel's comments is not "revenge" for the passion of christ. i think a more logical approach is that mel's comments justify a previous belief that the passion of christ did portray jews in a negative light, and some motivation for that portrayal may have been the aforementioned irrational disdain for my people.

Finally, am I the only one that thinks this whole mess is really a karma-induced payback for Mel's willingness to produce the crap that is "Paparazzi"??

And sorry to jump into the fray a little late here...but you know what i always say: better late than pregnant.